Talking heart disease with Marilu Henner

Featuring My 6-Step Solution for Ending Heart Disease

Yesterday, July 10, I had the honor of being the very first “repeat” guest on the new Marilu Henner radio show, now eight weeks old. The topic was heart disease and featured a lively discussion with Marilu and her brother Loren, who is a regular on the show. To listen to yesterday’s one-hour segment, click here.

Marilu HeaderOur discussion centered on the sad fact that most of our medical professionals are not aware of how easily heart disease can be reversed. Loren thought that it was incredulous that our doctors are not routinely recommending the almost certain heart disease “cure” that is possible with a whole foods, plant-based diet.

Marilu asked about one of my blogs featuring the heart disease treatments chosen by former VP Dick Cheney and former President Bill Clinton. I shared this part on the air:

Broccoli & Lentils OR Heart Transplant Surgery? Which would you choose?

Dick Cheny 2In March of 2012, former Vice President Cheney was in the news—receiving a heart transplant that he’d waited 20 months to receive. A veteran of five previous heart surgeries (ages 37, 43, 47, 59 and 69), apparently he either thinks that the heart-disease reversing diet is too extreme OR maybe no one ever told him that he had a choice. (See USA Today article at end of this post)

Was Mr. Cheney lucky? The fact that he was receiving a heart transplant at age 71 has raised a few eyebrows. Some feel that politics or money may have had something to do with him getting one of only 2300 available hearts per year. There are currently 3100 people on the list. Might he have been much luckier had he learned about how to easily reverse his heart disease back in his 30′s and 40′s when he first began having heart procedures?

Bill Clinton making a point about his "plant-based" diet to Wolf Blitzer on CNN. You can see this video on the Video tab of this website.

Bill Clinton making a point about his “plant-based” diet to Wolf Blitzer on CNN.

In my opinion, Mr. Clinton was the lucky one. He was lucky enough to learn about the work of Caldwell Esselstyn, Dean Ornish and T. Colin Campbell. And he was smart enough to heed their advice. For the entire blog, Clinton or Cheney? Which heart treatment do you prefer?

What can you do? So what can everyone do to help speed up the process of educating our medical community about the incredible power of plant-based nutrition to reverse heart disease? How many more millions of people have to suffer and die before this simple solution becomes common knowledge? What about my 6-Step Solution? It’s all about the doctors. This life-saving message won’t ever make it to the mainstream until the medical doctors learn it and start using it.

As Dr. Esselstyn says, “Heart disease is a toothless paper tiger that need never exist. And if it does exist, it need never progress.” So, how can you help to end heart disease?

My 6-Step Solution for Ending Heart Disease

Dr. Sanjay Gupta with President Clinton---scene from "The Last Heart Attack."

Dr. Sanjay Gupta with President Clinton—scene from “The Last Heart Attack.”

  1. Ask all of your doctors to watch The Last Heart Attack — a 40-minute 2011 video on CNN, provided free here on my website.
  2. Ask all of your doctors to watch the 2-minute trailer of Forks Over Knives (provided below) and/or the complete documentary on Netflix.
  3. Ask all of your doctors to read the Spring 2013 Kaiser Permanente paper, where they advise physicians to recommend a plant-based diet to ALL of their patients. Click Here
  4. Schedule a meeting with each of your doctors to discuss all of the above.
  5. Recommend that all of your doctors sign up for the inaugural Plant-Based Nutrition Healthcare Conference in October—with continuing medical education credits. Tell them that Marilu will be there to greet them.
  6. For your doctors who have no interest in any of the above, FIRE THEM!

The 2-minute trailer of Forks Over Knives

The above video could become the “two minutes that defeated heart disease” along with most of the other chronic diseases that are driven by our toxic western diet. Share this blog with everyone you know — particularly your medical doctors.

One more thing, some of you may remember Marilu from her starring role in TAXI.

Some of you may remember Marilu from her starring role in TAXI.

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—J. Morris Hicks, board member, T. Colin Campbell Foundation

About J. Morris Hicks

A former strategic management consultant and senior corporate executive with Ralph Lauren in New York, J. Morris Hicks has always focused on the "big picture" when analyzing any issue. In 2002, after becoming curious about our "optimal diet," he began a study of what we eat from a global perspective ---- discovering many startling issues and opportunities along the way. In addition to an MBA and a BS in Industrial Engineering, he holds a certificate in plant-based nutrition from the T. Colin Campbell Center for Nutrition Studies, where he has also been a member of the board of directors since 2012. Having concluded that our food choices hold the key to the sustainability of our civilization, he has made this his #1 priority---exploring all avenues for influencing humans everywhere to move back to the natural plant-based diet for our species.
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3 Responses to Talking heart disease with Marilu Henner

  1. Sal Liggieri says:


    It looks like we will be firing a lot of doctors.

    Why not just heed Dr John McDougall’s advise: Stay away from doctors.

  2. Irene says:

    Jim, It’s great that Marilu has had you on her show again getting the word out about plant-based nutrition and health. I also think your comments about the experiences Dick Cheney and Bill Clinton have had in regard to their heart conditions, and the way each of them chose to handle their health, is very important. However, a couple of months ago I found it frustrating to hear Chris Matthews say (after he had done a segment on his show that mentioned Bill Clinton) something to the affect of – “Clinton’s getting too thin. Somebody ought to feed him a hamburger.” So every bit of progress you make in getting the word out there (as you did on Marilu’s show) will hopefully raise the awareness of a few more people who hear it.

  3. Joanne Irwin says:

    Hi, Jim,
    I listened to your interview yesterday, and you did an outstanding job of hitting the main points regarding prevention, corporate American’s stranglehold, and doctor’s ignorance regarding prevention.
    What boggles my mind is the lack of response from CEO’s. Given your exposure, knowledge, authorship, you’d think they’d be lined up at the doors to take health care and wellness into their own hands.
    Maybe you should have your own radio show!!!!!

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